In short, it was cheaper than the P5 and P7, and better than the P3 and P4. Some 40,000 of these handguns were made at Sauer’s factory in Eckenförde, Germany, making it one of the most popular Teutonic police pistols of the 1980s. This led to the beautiful relationship that became SIG-Sauer while the gun this union created was adopted as the P6. Sauer & Sohn, a local German company, to make a bid. Introducing their new P225 pistol to replace stocks of Walther P1s in 1975, the company collaborated with J. Switzerland’s SIG works had previously sold the Germans a small number of guns (see the P2 above) but was trolling for a bigger fish. To have something with more of a wow-factor than the old P1, Walther came up with the P-38 IV.
Walther was working on a revolutionary new design, which later became the P88 series of gun, but it was still in R&D. In 1975, the writing was on the wall for the German police to start replacing the Walther P1, then largely the standard 9mm pistol on the hips of poliezi across the country, with something more modern. Guns marked as such are seen in the US for $900-ish. They served notably with the West Berlin Police. In the 1950s, smelling a deal, West Germany negotiated the long delayed delivery of these dusty guns from storage, redubbed the P3 police pistol. Hey, anything is better than a pointy stick.Īfter the War, the Spanish still had more than 10,000 of these guns in storage that could never be delivered to Hitler. A blowback design (think Hi-Point 9mm), it had a stout recoil but its long barrel gave it a good sight radius and it proved reliable enough to be well liked by the German Army during the war. At 8.1-inches overall with a very distinctive 5.3-inch barrel, the 600 was a chunky gun, tipping the scales at over 40-ounces when its 8-shot magazine was fully loaded. The 600 was a 9x19mm version of the Spanish Army’s Astra 400, which was chambered in 9x23mm Largo. One deal they brokered was with the Spanish firm of Astra for nearly 60,000 of their Model 600 pistols. As such, each of the guns that passed the testing was classified with a P-designation.īecause of these standards these pistols, stretching from the Walther P-1 to the HK P-10, have shared a number of common attributes… What these guns had in common In 1950, the new Republic of Germany needed guns for their police forces and went about setting a standard for these guns to be acceptable for service. The Soviets occupied the easternmost portion of the land, and formed the German Democratic Republic, or East Germany. The US and her allies occupied the Western two thirds of the country, which became the Federal Republic of Germany, commonly referred to as West Germany. What is the ‘P’ designation about?Īt the end of World War 2, Germany was divided into two separate countries. But what you may not pay much mind to is that all of these guns get their ‘P’ designation from being adopted by the West German police back in the bad old days and, for students of history, that’s more than enough to raise an eyebrow at. You know the ones, the Walther p1, SIG P6, HK P7 etcetera. If you’re a handgun hound, chances are you’ve set eyes on a whole line of imported European 9mm cop guns over the years. On top, the P5, left, P7 and, bottom, P6 commercial model. I drive by there everytime I go to range.ĭealer I deal with is actually located in Bellefonte.German Police guns. Raytheon is like defence contractor isn't it? Located off of Science park road? I think most common issues with P-1 frame is an impact deformation on the top frame surface, for lack of a better name, Peeningīut otherwise, they are great gunz. I have shot few P-1, and all were great shooters.Įventho pic like above is scary, catastrophic failuer like such are few and far between. I'm not exactly sure when the P38 nomenclature was changed to P1, but all P1's to my knowledge have the alloy frame. Who's the dealer in your area that is selling the P38's?Īlso you are right. Off the subject I lived in State College from 1966 into 1990 and worked for what now is known as Rayethon. I don't intend shooting +P, but if push came to shove I wouldn't be afraid to. The original date of manfucture was 1968 and shows no signs of wear and was originally intended for use of the NATO 124gr cartridge which ain't no slouch for hi pressure.
My serial # is 287511 and was upgraded in Apr of 1998. I was fortunate that the Lad at Gander let me look thru their stock and pick and choose.
I noticed the failed piece has a low serial # and the frame does not have the latest upgrade which is a heavy hex pin right where the break is in your photo.